Comments on: EntreCard Advertising Cost should be related to number of drops http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/ Flash Game Downloads by Deimos Tel`Arin Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:14:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: tony http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-5414 tony Sun, 18 May 2008 17:04:10 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-5414 Like your site. Very informative. Thanks ! Like your site. Very informative. Thanks !

]]> By: lankapo http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2759 lankapo Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:47:33 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2759 :roll: by reading your post here, i can see how u really love entecard and will be Graham Langdon's body guard. did u read john cow's blog, about entrecard.complain here and there :) anyway, I love entrecard, because of entrecard, my blog alexa ranking from 1 million to 200k in 2 months :roll: by reading your post here, i can see how u really love entecard and will be Graham Langdon’s body guard.

did u read john cow’s blog, about entrecard.complain here and there :)

anyway, I love entrecard, because of entrecard, my blog alexa ranking from 1 million to 200k in 2 months

]]> By: Xacur http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2755 Xacur Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:46:23 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2755 <blockquote>"2. Reciprocal dropping is gaming the system. Sorry, it is. How many people would bother to visit your website if you weren’t dropping on theirs? My guess is it would be much less and if that is the case, then the traffic is just illusionary. If you didn’t know who was dropping on you, the incentive would be to visit sites you are interested in."</blockquote> With that he totally change the meaning of a business card, I mean if you don't know who is dropping you, then why you want a business card? The bidding system is cool, but have nothing to do with the entrecard system, and there is already a project wonderful. Worst category was less waiting time (or something like that) it didn't worked at all, but it was removed. I think the entrecard system is good as it is, they have to improve their server or something instead because I remember when every change in Entrecard was instantaneous, now it don't even work well. I dropped 390 cards one day, and it count me all of them, then some day when I had dropped 200 and somthing it started telling me 300 a day... and I couldn't reach the 300!, etc. Lots of problems with the... software or I don't know what should be fixed.

“2. Reciprocal dropping is gaming the system. Sorry, it is. How many people would bother to visit your website if you weren’t dropping on theirs? My guess is it would be much less and if that is the case, then the traffic is just illusionary. If you didn’t know who was dropping on you, the incentive would be to visit sites you are interested in.”

With that he totally change the meaning of a business card, I mean if you don’t know who is dropping you, then why you want a business card?

The bidding system is cool, but have nothing to do with the entrecard system, and there is already a project wonderful.

Worst category was less waiting time (or something like that) it didn’t worked at all, but it was removed.

I think the entrecard system is good as it is, they have to improve their server or something instead because I remember when every change in Entrecard was instantaneous, now it don’t even work well. I dropped 390 cards one day, and it count me all of them, then some day when I had dropped 200 and somthing it started telling me 300 a day… and I couldn’t reach the 300!, etc.

Lots of problems with the… software or I don’t know what should be fixed.

]]> By: Marcus Hochstadt http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2751 Marcus Hochstadt Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:20:31 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2751 Well, currently it's good as it is. LOL OK; perhaps plugging a sort of Karma points or score into the algorithm. [quote Deimos]Unless one receives more than 200+ drops per day.[/quote] Hehe, so true mate... ;-) Well, currently it’s good as it is. LOL

OK; perhaps plugging a sort of Karma points or score into the algorithm.

[quote Deimos]Unless one receives more than 200+ drops per day.[/quote]

Hehe, so true mate… ;-)

]]> By: Deimos Tel`Arin http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2749 Deimos Tel`Arin Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:58:10 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2749 <b>@Leon:</b> Actually, it is kinda based on votes at the moment. :grin: A site gets a "vote" whenever it gets a "drop". :razz: Systems based on votes are easily gamed. :wink: @Leon:
Actually, it is kinda based on votes at the moment. :grin:
A site gets a “vote” whenever it gets a “drop”. :razz:
Systems based on votes are easily gamed. :wink:

]]> By: Leon http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2747 Leon Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:24:56 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2747 It'd be a crime not to comment on this post. You raise some very valid points. Entrecard should base your site value on something like votes or something else like that. I realize as Entrecard grows, it's being gamed more and the traffic is of less quality. It’d be a crime not to comment on this post. You raise some very valid points. Entrecard should base your site value on something like votes or something else like that. I realize as Entrecard grows, it’s being gamed more and the traffic is of less quality.

]]> By: Deimos Tel`Arin http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2745 Deimos Tel`Arin Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:16:30 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2745 <b>@Entrepreneur:</b> I agree with you about the Most Recommended page. :shock: Most of the recommendations are not really sincere. :arrow: @Entrepreneur:
I agree with you about the Most Recommended page. :shock:
Most of the recommendations are not really sincere. :arrow:

]]> By: My Top 10 Entrecard Droppers as of Feb 21st, 2008 | Down On Our Luck http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2743 My Top 10 Entrecard Droppers as of Feb 21st, 2008 | Down On Our Luck Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:21:30 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2743 [...] ahkong.net - Deimos Tel`Arin domain - Gamer, Blogger, Philosopher [...] [...] ahkong.net – Deimos Tel`Arin domain – Gamer, Blogger, Philosopher [...]

]]> By: Entrepreneur http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2742 Entrepreneur Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:54:27 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2742 I don't completely agree with your post but my vote is definitely to continue to tie in the number of drops with the advertising costs. The category that I think should be removed is the MOST RECOMMENDED since so many people are just recommending everyone's blog in the hopes that they get recommended back. Most people are smart enough, like John Chow, to just pay people to recommend them. The whole category is meaningless and more or less looks like the MOST POPULAR anyway. I don’t completely agree with your post but my vote is definitely to continue to tie in the number of drops with the advertising costs.

The category that I think should be removed is the MOST RECOMMENDED since so many people are just recommending everyone’s blog in the hopes that they get recommended back. Most people are smart enough, like John Chow, to just pay people to recommend them. The whole category is meaningless and more or less looks like the MOST POPULAR anyway.

]]> By: Deimos Tel`Arin http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2739 Deimos Tel`Arin Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:05:11 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2739 <b>@BaseGuardian:</b> People are free to make their own choices. :smile: Not very nice to attempt to dictate others choices, aye? :cool: ========================================================= <b>@Carol:</b> Exactly my thoughts! :wink: Methinks that some folks are whining too. :razz: ========================================================= @BaseGuardian:
People are free to make their own choices. :smile:
Not very nice to attempt to dictate others choices, aye? :cool:

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@Carol:
Exactly my thoughts! :wink:
Methinks that some folks are whining too. :razz:

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]]> By: Carol http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2738 Carol Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:54:11 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2738 It seems to be the same no matter what site or service gets going, someone finds a way to game it, rig it, or cause its complete meltdown. And, when it seems that site users or members feel they are getting the shaft, they whine and say "no fair!" and want to change the rules in their favor. I think Entrecard is one of the best ideas to come down the pike, and we all win if we take the time to leave a comment, look at new blogs, and make new friends. It seems to be the same no matter what site or service gets going, someone finds a way to game it, rig it, or cause its complete meltdown. And, when it seems that site users or members feel they are getting the shaft, they whine and say “no fair!” and want to change the rules in their favor. I think Entrecard is one of the best ideas to come down the pike, and we all win if we take the time to leave a comment, look at new blogs, and make new friends.

]]> By: BaseGuradian http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2737 BaseGuradian Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:47:41 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2737 I voted the second one :razz: I think if you want to drop 300 cards a day go a head, it's your computer, your internet line your time and your energy :lol: I don't see why this is such a big problem, everyday I log in my EC dashboard, I drop on the blogs that drop on me first and keep dropping until I want to stop. if i saw a good article, I read it. You (bloggers) don't have to force me to read it, you can force me to read it by writing a good post though :razz: for me Entrecard is just a tool to see other blog, not my boss telling me what to read :roll: or post a comment. I voted the second one :razz:
I think if you want to drop 300 cards a day go a head, it’s your computer, your internet line your time and your energy :lol: I don’t see why this is such a big problem, everyday I log in my EC dashboard, I drop on the blogs that drop on me first and keep dropping until I want to stop. if i saw a good article, I read it. You (bloggers) don’t have to force me to read it, you can force me to read it by writing a good post though :razz: for me Entrecard is just a tool to see other blog, not my boss telling me what to read :roll: or post a comment.

]]> By: Deimos Tel`Arin http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2736 Deimos Tel`Arin Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:42:16 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2736 <b>@iCalvyn:</b> My Advertising Cost is ever increasing and my Ad Spot is always full. :eek: ========================================================= <b>@Alan:</b> Gah! Your family's medical problem is resolved, right? :shock: I guess those people closed off certain parts of their mind. :neutral: ========================================================= <B>@Aizat:</b> Well, it does not use much time to return a drop. :shock: Unless one receives more than 200+ drops per day. :???: ========================================================= <B>@StanHayes:</b> Thanks for the feedback and support yo! :wink: ========================================================= @iCalvyn:
My Advertising Cost is ever increasing and my Ad Spot is always full. :eek:

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@Alan:
Gah! Your family’s medical problem is resolved, right? :shock:
I guess those people closed off certain parts of their mind. :neutral:

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@Aizat:
Well, it does not use much time to return a drop. :shock:
Unless one receives more than 200+ drops per day. :???:

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@StanHayes:
Thanks for the feedback and support yo! :wink:

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]]> By: StanHayes http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2735 StanHayes Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:06:48 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2735 As I've said and Alan just said, it's important to be on the Most Popular page because you get organic clicks from the Entrecard community. Good post overall. As I’ve said and Alan just said, it’s important to be on the Most Popular page because you get organic clicks from the Entrecard community. Good post overall.

]]> By: Aizat http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2733 Aizat Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:19:42 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2733 <blockquote>sincerely with other bloggers is a crucial part of blogging</blockquote> yes it true! sometime it is not about sincere but the bloggers just busy and can't make a drop.. for me at least I could drop back is good enough.. i dun mind if i drop on someone blog and they don't drop back.. :idea:

sincerely with other bloggers is a crucial part of blogging

yes it true! sometime it is not about sincere but the bloggers just busy and can’t make a drop.. for me at least I could drop back is good enough.. i dun mind if i drop on someone blog and they don’t drop back.. :idea:

]]> By: Alan http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2732 Alan Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:41:55 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2732 Great post, Deimos. If I ever get a hold of that roundtoit I've been looking for I am planning a post on chaindrop that discusses the value of Entrecard and PW advertising. My experience has been that you Don't in fact have to drop like crazy to build and keep an audience. While I had been a power dropper for awhile, some medical problems in my family forced me to be away from the computer and not drop much at all for awhile and I was thrilled to find that many of my regular Entrecard readers did continue to visit and drop on me while I was away. And I totally don't get why anyone would think that getting on the Most Popular page is not a reasonable goal-- being listed on Most Popular and/or in the top 3 for your niche on the Categories page brings in lots of "organic" clicks from EC. As I've said many times before, as a blogger it is up to you to create compelling content that lures droppers to read and comment on your blog. And I completely agree that it is all about networking and building relationships with other bloggers. My best to you, Alan Great post, Deimos. If I ever get a hold of that roundtoit I’ve been looking for I am planning a post on chaindrop that discusses the value of Entrecard and PW advertising. My experience has been that you Don’t in fact have to drop like crazy to build and keep an audience. While I had been a power dropper for awhile, some medical problems in my family forced me to be away from the computer and not drop much at all for awhile and I was thrilled to find that many of my regular Entrecard readers did continue to visit and drop on me while I was away. And I totally don’t get why anyone would think that getting on the Most Popular page is not a reasonable goal– being listed on Most Popular and/or in the top 3 for your niche on the Categories page brings in lots of “organic” clicks from EC. As I’ve said many times before, as a blogger it is up to you to create compelling content that lures droppers to read and comment on your blog. And I completely agree that it is all about networking and building relationships with other bloggers.

My best to you,

Alan

]]> By: iCalvyn http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2731 iCalvyn Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:26:05 +0000 http://ahkong.net/entrecard-advertising-cost-should-be-related-to-number-of-drops/#comment-2731 formy opinion, number of drop shoould be a part of the advertising credit. But i found that the more your credit was, the less people advertise at my entrecard formy opinion, number of drop shoould be a part of the advertising credit.

But i found that the more your credit was, the less people advertise at my entrecard

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